Carine Roitfeld is without doubt one of the most influential names in the world of fashion. Since leaving French Vogue, her future has been up in the air, but certainly with no shortage of demand for her creative eye. Karl Lagerfeld interviews Roitfeld for Interview Magazine and discusses in large part the styling and image movement she was so prolific in creating alongside the likes of Tom Ford and Mario Sorrenti, in bringing erotic chic to the mainstream.

You can read the full interview here.

KARL LAGERFELD: How far can you take an image?

CARINE ROITFELD: I think that when you’re taking pictures with my principles, you can try anything. Dare to do a lot of things—dare with sexuality, dare to break taboos as long as it remains photogenic. As long as I find an elegance and beauty in it, I am not afraid to tackle anything.

LAGERFELD: I think it was Marlow who said, “There is no beauty without some strangeness in the proportions.”

ROITFELD: Exactly. I think that something needs to be weird in order to have a real beauty. Beauty can be quite boring, especially if you’re talking about beauty that doesn’t last. And what lasts is exactly the thing that maybe wasn’t pretty at first—it comes over time to be beautiful or interesting or exciting—

LAGERFELD: For example, during the golden age of movie stars, there were plenty of actresses who were deemed unattractive at the start of their careers, but struggled and finally appeared more beautiful and more iconic. Sometimes that idea of being truly iconic has something to do with not necessarily being beautiful and thus trying harder.