Here is an insightful interview with Fraser Cooke, with Glenn Kitson conducting a piece for KTC. Having started out as a hairdresser and now holding the position as Global Energy Marketing Director at Nike, Cooke’s influence continues to have great presence and impact on the scene.

GLENN KITSON: So you’re from london?

FRASER COOKE: Yes, I was born in Whitechapel, East London but I grew up on the end of the Central line (east) in the suburbs, but I lived all over London. The final place I had before moving abroad was in Islington close to Highbury Stadium.

I used to live in Shoreditch around 1995 and it was dead around there, it was so cheap to live in a loft. There were no shops open at night, if you needed a pint of milk you had to go to the petrol station. In contrast to how it is now, back then it was like a ghost town at the weekend.

When I visit London now, I stay in Kensington. I prefer that these days. I like the slickness a bit more. I can see if you are young that it must be quite exciting to live in East London but, personally it’s not what I am looking for these days.

GK: So how did you get into the industry? what is your background?

FC: When I was growing up I was always into skateboarding, Hip Hop music and stuff like that and it was always in the background. Originally, I was trained as a hairdresser and worked for Vidal Sassoon. I did a three-year apprenticeship and moved on from there to a salon in Soho called D-Mob, which was a bit of a scene. They had their own clothes store and also a salon. Nearby was another clothes store called Passenger and I used to cut the guy’s hair that worked in there.

Around this time I was quite friendly with Karl Templar who was at the time working at the Face. They were doing this thing called Fashion Hype at the time, which looked at new cool stuff in the front section of the magazine. There was a large American influence; Public Enemy was very big so they may have styled someone in a Raiders Starter jacket or something like that. I was into that sort of stuff and into sneakers and the guy who worked at the store (Passenger) asked me if I wanted to come and work as a buyer. I was a little tired of cutting hair at that point and felt this job was a kind of calling, which I think it has to be if you’re going to do anything for a long time.

GK: Can you talk us through your early years in that role?

FC: So it was around 1989 and I went and started working for this guy. Almost immediately I had to go to New York. We would go about once a month and see companies like New Era. They’re quite big now but back then they weren’t so much. We started buying up baseball caps and varsity jackets. We would go over to Brooklyn to Dr Jay’s and buy up all their adidas Superstars, which must have been $19, a pair – deadstock. Made In France. Nobody cared about it then, they were like ‘OK, so you want to buy ALL of them?’

This was before any reissuing or anything. We used to work with some other stores with a lot of deadstock inventory, old Nike’s, old suede Fila’s, which were very popular, back then. I only worked there for less than a year till we parted ways but I made a lot of good contacts in New York and some good friends.

GK: You went back to cutting hair?

FC: Yes, after that, I went back to cutting hair temporarily but while I had been in New York I met a guy called Don who had a label called Pervert and he kept sending me stuff. I would give it to Karl (Templar) who was still at the ace and he would feature it in the magazine. He would put my number in there as a contact and suddenly I became a distributor by default. Stores would call me asking where they could get stock.

So as a result, I learned that I could make some money out of this and earn a living. Back then I really wanted to live in the US as I was excited about the things that were coming out of there – musically and stylistically. So I set up my own distribution company and would go back and forth to New York and it funded itself as a business.

As well as this, I was also doing other projects such as working with Blackmarket Records in London. The Rave scene was very big and we would sell tickets out of the store. As a result I ended up meeting James Lavelle who had just started Mo’ Wax. He was working at Honest John’s record store and I was living off Portobello Road. He was a young kid from Oxford and he said he needed somewhere to stay, so suddenly I had a flat mate and by default Tim Goldsworthy (producer and Mo’ Wax co-founder) would stay as well.

GK: You ended up working together?

FC: Well James was into the Hip Hop stuff that was I playing so I guess we inspired each other and I became an early employee of Mo’ Wax. On the very first few releases you can see it’s only the three of us credited.

I began doing some deals with companies to license tracks and also James needed some merchandise. So I started making T-shirts and bags for the label with people that I knew along with doing my own distribution for my own company. We all moved into an office together and this went on for a few years.

GK: It sounds like quite a fluid and flexible way to work. You diversified into doing other things too, didn’t you?

FC: I was doing this and that, DJing, a lot of writing, I used to write for the Face and i-D, Arena Homme+.

I was always quite friendly with Michael Kopelman (from Gimme5); he was someone I would run into. We would come out to the States twice a year to the action sports retailer tradeshows. Michael was always big into the Japanese side of street wear and one day explained to me that he really wanted to do the Japanese market and American market properly and not just as a wholesaler. He didn’t think that any of the stores were representing it very well and asked how I felt about ‘teaming up and opening a shop?’ And at that time I was ready for moving on to the next thing so it seemed right.

GK: This was when The Hideout first opened then?

FC: Yes, we opened up under the name Hit and Run but we had to change it because the name was registered elsewhere. It then became The Hideout. This was 1997 and I would say it was perhaps the first genuine Street wear store outside of Japan. It was a great time, it was a good scene, the Mo’ Wax thing was still happening, the Bathing Ape thing was kicking in early and I was still DJing. (London nightclub) Fabric had just opened and  we started doing stuff with them. It was good.

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